Comments on: Should the Cardinals Re-Sign Joel Pineiro? http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/ A look at the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team from a GM perspective. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:21:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GM Meetings Recap: Laying the Groundwork for Parallel Tracks | Cardinals GM http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-542 GM Meetings Recap: Laying the Groundwork for Parallel Tracks | Cardinals GM Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:48:49 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-542 [...] dollar price tag. For my take on why the Cardinals shouldn’t resign Joel, check back to this article. Finally, Strauss reports that he isn’t aware of any interest in free agent third-basemen [...] [...] dollar price tag. For my take on why the Cardinals shouldn’t resign Joel, check back to this article. Finally, Strauss reports that he isn’t aware of any interest in free agent third-basemen [...]

]]> By: secret_sauce http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-541 secret_sauce Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:03:33 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-541 Read the post, good stuff as always Steve. Another point in not re-signing pineiro to consider is his type B free agent status. It's not a huge amount of value(without researching I believe type a's provide an avg of around 5.5 million, making type b's in the 2-3 million range) but the cards do need to re-stock the farm after all of the trades this past season. Read the post, good stuff as always Steve. Another point in not re-signing pineiro to consider is his type B free agent status. It’s not a huge amount of value(without researching I believe type a’s provide an avg of around 5.5 million, making type b’s in the 2-3 million range) but the cards do need to re-stock the farm after all of the trades this past season.

]]> By: Steve Sommer http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-540 Steve Sommer Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:29:18 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-540 Started as research for a comment here, but got a little wordy... http://tinyurl.com/yk67px9 Started as research for a comment here, but got a little wordy… http://tinyurl.com/yk67px9

]]> By: Quick look at Jo-El « St Louis Sports Scene http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-539 Quick look at Jo-El « St Louis Sports Scene Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:28:20 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-539 [...] by stevesommer05 on November 1, 2009 The guys over at Cardinals GM asked whether the Cards should look into resigning Joel Piniero.  After some initial research into [...] [...] by stevesommer05 on November 1, 2009 The guys over at Cardinals GM asked whether the Cards should look into resigning Joel Piniero.  After some initial research into [...]

]]> By: eccard http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-538 eccard Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:26:24 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-538 The thing with Pineiro is that his career has been all over the map. Yes, he regressed at the end of the season, but that's due to the career high in innings pitched. He wore down a month early and you could tell by the elevation of his pitches in the strike zone. The key of course is the change in pitching philosophy. If he sticks with it, will he continue to be dominant. On the other hand, if he goes to a new team and their pitching coach wants him to throw differently, what becomes of him then. The funny thing is, we the fans, didn't want him in the rotation at the start of the year. Wasted money and all, but boy did he shove it down everyones throats. Ended up tasting pretty damn good too. You know the saying; be careful what you wish for. He gave us the season we expected from Wellemeyer and vice-versa. Go figure! Bedard, Harden and Sheets are aces when healthy and while I like the idea of having a lefty (Bedard), the rumour is that he's got a bad attitude. Besides we'll probably have Garcia in the rotation anyway. Smoltzie I'd love to see return as our closer, only because I think the clock has struck midnight on Franklin. Harden and Escobar should come real cheap with incentives, so we'll likely end up with one of those two. The thing with Pineiro is that his career has been all over the map. Yes, he regressed at the end of the season, but that’s due to the career high in innings pitched. He wore down a month early and you could tell by the elevation of his pitches in the strike zone. The key of course is the change in pitching philosophy. If he sticks with it, will he continue to be dominant. On the other hand, if he goes to a new team and their pitching coach wants him to throw differently, what becomes of him then.

The funny thing is, we the fans, didn’t want him in the rotation at the start of the year. Wasted money and all, but boy did he shove it down everyones throats. Ended up tasting pretty damn good too. You know the saying; be careful what you wish for. He gave us the season we expected from Wellemeyer and vice-versa. Go figure!

Bedard, Harden and Sheets are aces when healthy and while I like the idea of having a lefty (Bedard), the rumour is that he’s got a bad attitude. Besides we’ll probably have Garcia in the rotation anyway. Smoltzie I’d love to see return as our closer, only because I think the clock has struck midnight on Franklin. Harden and Escobar should come real cheap with incentives, so we’ll likely end up with one of those two.

]]> By: secret_sauce http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-537 secret_sauce Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:56:07 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-537 Thanks for the comment Steve, and that's a good point. There's just too many signs that point to a regression for Piniero going forward. I'd much rather see Smoltz or any of the other starters like Bedard, Harden, Sheets, etc brought in than pay Pineiro big money to be durable. I just don't like giving out big money to pitchers who are so dependent on their luck with batted balls because their performance can be such a wild-card from year to year. Thanks for the comment Steve, and that’s a good point. There’s just too many signs that point to a regression for Piniero going forward. I’d much rather see Smoltz or any of the other starters like Bedard, Harden, Sheets, etc brought in than pay Pineiro big money to be durable. I just don’t like giving out big money to pitchers who are so dependent on their luck with batted balls because their performance can be such a wild-card from year to year.

]]> By: Steve Sommer http://cardinalsgm.com/gm-suggestions/cardinals-resign-joel-pineiro/#comment-536 Steve Sommer Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:25:18 +0000 http://cardinalsgm.com/?p=609#comment-536 He also had a pretty low (difficult to maintain?) HR/FB%, which speaks to the luck side of things, and adds to the low FIP. He also had a pretty low (difficult to maintain?) HR/FB%, which speaks to the luck side of things, and adds to the low FIP.

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