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	<title>Comments on: The Key to Landing Holliday: Jason Bay?</title>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to go to the winter meetings</description>
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		<title>By: secret_sauce</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Honestly I don&#039;t think Bay is going to get much more than the 4/60 he turned down, but I can&#039;t blame him for wanting to see what&#039;s out there.  You are right about Theo, but Cashman has been public and private in the past in negotiations, though I don&#039;t think going public was by design.  Also agree on Cameron, although his Chone projection pegs him for a .740 ops I&#039;d be surprised if he lost 50 points in ops that quick.  There&#039;s just so many variables in this situation, and the only way I think St. Louis gets Holliday is if:

-One of Red Sox/Yankees signs Lackey, and the other trades for Halladay and signs him to an extension.
-Bay goes to Boston and not LAA.

I don&#039;t see the Angels signing Holliday, and they have said &quot;he won&#039;t be an Angel&quot; so I don&#039;t think they are a factor.  If the Angels get Lackey or trade for Halladay however, I really think it&#039;s up in the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  Honestly I don&#8217;t think Bay is going to get much more than the 4/60 he turned down, but I can&#8217;t blame him for wanting to see what&#8217;s out there.  You are right about Theo, but Cashman has been public and private in the past in negotiations, though I don&#8217;t think going public was by design.  Also agree on Cameron, although his Chone projection pegs him for a .740 ops I&#8217;d be surprised if he lost 50 points in ops that quick.  There&#8217;s just so many variables in this situation, and the only way I think St. Louis gets Holliday is if:</p>
<p>-One of Red Sox/Yankees signs Lackey, and the other trades for Halladay and signs him to an extension.<br />
-Bay goes to Boston and not LAA.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the Angels signing Holliday, and they have said &#8220;he won&#8217;t be an Angel&#8221; so I don&#8217;t think they are a factor.  If the Angels get Lackey or trade for Halladay however, I really think it&#8217;s up in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Bay signing will really speed things up because there&#039;s no way Holliday signs without seeing what Bay gets, and then adding a couple years and about ~$30-35MM to that.

It&#039;s tough to say what will happen because both Theo and Cashman have kept publicly secretive about who they want in the past. I didn&#039;t hear a word about Drew or Lugo until a couple days at most before it happened. I think the fact that Theo has remained very quiet about Holliday and that the Yankees have been quoted as saying they&#039;re looking to cut payroll makes the situation a little more clear. But, I don&#039;t rule the Yanks out of anything, especially when they have an opening at a position.

A great plan B for anyone in the Holliday/Bay running has to be Mike Cameron, who has raked against lefties the past three years (.407/.530).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Bay signing will really speed things up because there&#8217;s no way Holliday signs without seeing what Bay gets, and then adding a couple years and about ~$30-35MM to that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough to say what will happen because both Theo and Cashman have kept publicly secretive about who they want in the past. I didn&#8217;t hear a word about Drew or Lugo until a couple days at most before it happened. I think the fact that Theo has remained very quiet about Holliday and that the Yankees have been quoted as saying they&#8217;re looking to cut payroll makes the situation a little more clear. But, I don&#8217;t rule the Yanks out of anything, especially when they have an opening at a position.</p>
<p>A great plan B for anyone in the Holliday/Bay running has to be Mike Cameron, who has raked against lefties the past three years (.407/.530).</p>
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